Comments on: SAR #1 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/ ramblings and musing of the GHS AP Lang class Wed, 02 May 2007 23:53:52 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Mattman_Robinson http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-93 Mattman_Robinson Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:07:35 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-93 I think that the setting in this story is a very important aspect of the novel. I agree with Larry Joe in that the actions of the characters are far more important than where the actions take place. However, this does not mean that the setting is unimportant, just secondary to the actual event that takes place within it. On the other hand the setting is what the characters adapt their actions to. This could greatly afect the characters reactions to certain situations, but could be a great alteration as some have said, or a very minute one. I think that the setting in this story is a very important aspect of the novel. I agree with Larry Joe in that the actions of the characters are far more important than where the actions take place. However, this does not mean that the setting is unimportant, just secondary to the actual event that takes place within it. On the other hand the setting is what the characters adapt their actions to. This could greatly afect the characters reactions to certain situations, but could be a great alteration as some have said, or a very minute one.

]]> By: Larry Joe http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Larry Joe Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:41:41 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-91 I have to disagree with both Elizabeth and Rachel, and because as this is a hemmingway book, your view on how to interpret this book should change. Setting ussually develops character, however Hemmingway's heros are men of action and are defined by their actions towards others. The setting in the story is only relevant if you too talk about tools to help the plot be smoother, but even without the european setting characters and the plot would be the same with minor or no changes what-so-ever. I have to disagree with both Elizabeth and Rachel, and because as this is a hemmingway book, your view on how to interpret this book should change. Setting ussually develops character, however Hemmingway’s heros are men of action and are defined by their actions towards others. The setting in the story is only relevant if you too talk about tools to help the plot be smoother, but even without the european setting characters and the plot would be the same with minor or no changes what-so-ever.

]]> By: Matt H http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Matt H Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:49:03 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-88 The bull fighting really symbolizes everything the characters are missing and it is a really important setting. The bull fighter has to step into the area of the bull thus sacrificing his safety to get what he wants and make it look good. The scene shows exactly what the characters ar missing making it almost ironic. Plus the realxing fishing area was definitely a bit of scenery that made Jake question. The setting played a big role I agree with Elizabeth and Racel. The bull fighting really symbolizes everything the characters are missing and it is a really important setting. The bull fighter has to step into the area of the bull thus sacrificing his safety to get what he wants and make it look good. The scene shows exactly what the characters ar missing making it almost ironic. Plus the realxing fishing area was definitely a bit of scenery that made Jake question. The setting played a big role I agree with Elizabeth and Racel.

]]> By: Rachel H. http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Rachel H. Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:58:30 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-83 I think it's interesting that although the characters are lost and seeking meaning and purpose to their lives, they go to Europe--France, of all places. Why would you go to France right after World War I? If ever there was a setting for disillusionment, Europe right after WWI was it. All of these characters go to France to find purpose and--psh--it's no surprise that they don't. I agree with what Rachel and Elizabeth say about the setting, too. Spain--somewhere with a completely different feel, as seen when Jake and Bill cross the border--adds excitement to their lives. But then they find it to be not that much different from France after the fiesta. So much for that. I think it’s interesting that although the characters are lost and seeking meaning and purpose to their lives, they go to Europe–France, of all places. Why would you go to France right after World War I? If ever there was a setting for disillusionment, Europe right after WWI was it. All of these characters go to France to find purpose and–psh–it’s no surprise that they don’t.

I agree with what Rachel and Elizabeth say about the setting, too. Spain–somewhere with a completely different feel, as seen when Jake and Bill cross the border–adds excitement to their lives. But then they find it to be not that much different from France after the fiesta. So much for that.

]]> By: Beth http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-78 Beth Thu, 15 Feb 2007 22:17:11 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-78 i dont think its very relevant, as it changes so frequently. the real story takes place within the characters, it would have been the same story regardless of the setting. the characters fail to realize this. i dont think its very relevant, as it changes so frequently. the real story takes place within the characters, it would have been the same story regardless of the setting. the characters fail to realize this.

]]> By: Christina :) http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-75 Christina :) Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:40:37 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-75 I agree with the others, that the setting is very important to the book. They are all americans in Europe, a foreign place to them that they do not know very well. The setting and the characters understanding of it portrays the theme of all the characters being lost and searching to find meaning. It shows this by, as the characters travel trough Europe, their problems become apparent and as they near they end of their travels Jake finds a type of resolution. I agree with the others, that the setting is very important to the book.
They are all americans in Europe, a foreign place to them that they do not know very well.
The setting and the characters understanding of it portrays the theme of all the characters being lost and searching to find meaning. It shows this by, as the characters travel trough Europe, their problems become apparent and as they near they end of their travels Jake finds a type of resolution.

]]> By: Valerie http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-72 Valerie Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:12:25 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-72 The setting in this novel is VERY important. I definately agree with Essence that the setting of the story helps develop the characters. The setting of the story helps to show that the characters are lost and can't find what they want. This is especially seen in Robert Cohn who is restless and anywhere he goes, he wants to keep moving. The setting in this novel is VERY important. I definately agree with Essence that the setting of the story helps develop the characters. The setting of the story helps to show that the characters are lost and can’t find what they want. This is especially seen in Robert Cohn who is restless and anywhere he goes, he wants to keep moving.

]]> By: Essence http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-71 Essence Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:03:57 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-71 gee... i agree with rachel and elizabeth on the settings. settings are important in the book. settings and the things that the settings include help to develop the character. the reader is able to see how the character develops and changes throughout the book and this helps make the book interesting. after all, who wants to read a book where everything stays the same? also i think its nice to see that characters come to a resolution... its kind of inspiring. gee… i agree with rachel and elizabeth on the settings. settings are important in the book. settings and the things that the settings include help to develop the character. the reader is able to see how the character develops and changes throughout the book and this helps make the book interesting. after all, who wants to read a book where everything stays the same? also i think its nice to see that characters come to a resolution… its kind of inspiring.

]]> By: Rachel M. http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-67 Rachel M. Thu, 15 Feb 2007 02:54:11 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-67 I agree with what Elizabeth says about the setting making the book, with SAR being split up into three different sections and each section being a different counrty setting does mean a lot. The farther along the book progresses and as the characters get into Spain you start to see what the characters are actually like so the setting somewhat develops the character. I agree with what Elizabeth says about the setting making the book, with SAR being split up into three different sections and each section being a different counrty setting does mean a lot. The farther along the book progresses and as the characters get into Spain you start to see what the characters are actually like so the setting somewhat develops the character.

]]> By: Elizabeth Brown http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Elizabeth Brown Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:51:37 +0000 http://adkins.edublogs.org/2007/02/07/sar-1/#comment-64 Like I said in my other response, setting makes the book. The fact that they are in Europe gives it that laid back feeling, but also the bull ridding comes into play. With a group full of young energized men who are care free and footloose, the excitement of Spain adds passion to their world of irresponsible actions. Like I said in my other response, setting makes the book. The fact that they are in Europe gives it that laid back feeling, but also the bull ridding comes into play. With a group full of young energized men who are care free and footloose, the excitement of Spain adds passion to their world of irresponsible actions.

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